Category: Let's talk
Hi, do not reply if, 1, you are not nice, 2, have only negative things to say about people. I think it's time we have some positive topics here, so I decided to start it. Now I can't be accused of being in violation by daring to reply to a male topic.Oh well, no one can say I don't follow directions, haha. I was sorelytempted to title this topic, to be read by females only, but that would be discriminating against the few nice guys who are on here. Oh, and I'm 45, yay!
wonderwoman
Awww WonderWoman! Am I nice? Hehehe! Anyway you rock, and I love this topic! Rock on! XOXOOXOXXXOXOXXX! Caitlin
yes Caitlin, you are one of the best things to happen to the zone, and hopefully, it will provide something positive to read. This topic can include anyone from any state, country, or age group, so long as the poster is nice, friendly, and doesn't have anything negative to say about anyone.
wonderwoman
Lol WW I had to laugh at the title of this post Lol! hahaha
A topic for nice people? Guess that includes me.
Yes it does Turk, you're the reason I didn't call it that. It wouldn't be fair to the males who haven't done anything to anybody, and you've been very nice and helpful about the text thing with ventrilo. There may be a few other nice guys on this site, but at this moment, I can't think of any. I'm still wracking my brain though, but except for you Turk, my mind is a blank.
wonderwoman
WW .. seriously it's a shame you feel this way. It's certainly true that we are never going to be in total agreeance of everyone and vicebersa, and a lot of the stuff going on lately has pretty much all been in fun! and ya knoo, not everyone's humour will be understood the same. eg. I just had some harsh words to Blink183 cos we seem to always have had this love/hate relationship going. and I certainly think his sense of humour is way way too over the top, and he knows i get irritated so he razzes me up. We are not going to understand every's thought processed, and therefore, know how to take them. but try not to let these board messages get to you so much. (this is something I am needing to follow as well!) I know it's hard! but it gets easier!
Actually, I can think of a few other nice guys. *smile* But then again, I usually get along better with guys. LOL. As long as their decent that is.
Yeah, definitely a lot of guy prejudice in this post and, I dare say, this generalization/criticism is not particularly nice. But each ot his or her own.
Joy to the world
-B
does it also include the misunderstood waves a white flag and offers Scottish chocolate {no its not a bribe ..that comes later incase all else fails}Smile.
well i think i'm a nice person? ... all those in agreement say aye, grin
hmmm ok well in the absence of any agreement on that score i guess i should withdraw quietly.
Hold your horses, gentlemen, and arise against this universal condemnation of our gender! Now I'm all for positive thinking, Wonderwoman, but why is so much of your contribution to this topic negative? It's worthy of Professor Germaine Grear, the notorious feminist, it really is. There are nice guys around, you know, there really are. I hope I am one of them but naturally, 'tis not for me to say. I'm not one of those people who falls in line and goes along with absolutely anything, but in my view that doesn't make a chap a nasty chap does it? Seriously though, Wonderwoman, do try not to let posts on message boards get to you so much. Meanwhile, gentlemen, be of good heart and remember that there are some ears of corn amongst the straw.
Hehe, indeed, well said LawLord.
SB, certainly I shall have no objections to your proclamation here and shall support it fully indeed,
You can withdraw quietly if you so choose but it is certainly not necessary.
Chers
-B
The correct formulation, by the way sugarbaby, is 'As many of that opinion say aye' and as for your proclamation, as the speaker of the House of Commons would say, 'I think the aye's have it, the aye's have it. Unlock. order.'
Hi Sugar baby,
There's no need for you to withdraw, from what I have read of your posts, you seem like a sensitive caring person. It just seems that the girls and women are more positive, but I don't expect the male population to like me much, because if I think they're wrong, I say so. There's no hostility, just a simple, you're wrong. It was my mind was drawing a blank after the whole males only thing, and so I couldn't be accused of violating a topic rule, I started this one. And, Goblin, no, I don't accept bribes.
wonderwoman
sugerbaby i say aye u sound sweet some postings i post r rude but they r my belifs
WonderWoman, there is certainly no hostility on our part either, it's just a difference of opinion, that's all. I think everyone on this site deserves to be here, play an active part and enjoy chatting with whomever they please and I'm against topics that exclude certain people, even if it's just a joke (not that I make a fuzz about it) and I think by posting a topic like you did you fell into exactly the same trap as the topic you were criticizing and, as we know, you can't fight fire with fire, if you feel you are better than they are, don't make the same mistakes they do.
That being said, I hope you'll feel more positively about us males, we're a little playful and perhaps corss the line on occasion but rest assured we mean no offensse or harm to females ro anyone on this site, at least I speak for myself and those that I know.
peace
-B
I am no fan of one gender ganging up on another one, but I also am no fan of a constant diet of absolutely only positive or only negative. Life is a mix of both and I accept and acknowlege all of it, even if I don't like some of it. And nice or not, I posted anyway, so what are you going to do? Hehehehe!
well like it says in the top of all my posts Labyrinth, keep on posting, heeheehee
wonderwoman
Groovy. I know it's probably much easier said than done, but the thing to remember is that it's the internet, so don't let what people say get you down. Sometimes, people say things because everybody's basically anonymous so you can get away with it. Others want to push the envelope or get a rise out of people.
People are not going to always agree on all topics, but the concept of agreeing to disagree is a good one. As for weather I'm a nice guy I think I am, but that's beside the point I suppose. *shrug*
Hi All! Well just thought I'd add my nickels worth in and just say hi! Heh. I hope we can all calm down and kinda understand each other here. I for one know a lot of nice guys on the zone, lol. Hope they will come in and join the fun! And WW, don't worry about the posts lately. I'm not taking them to heart, I know Rachel's right, Blink is just whacked and has got a wild sense of humor, I know, because I've talked to him before. He's just razzing. I do agree it was kinda out of hand, but don't mind it. Hehehe xoxoxox! Thanks to all for reading this, and Hope I don't offend anyione.
Caitlin
Hi Caitlin, well it seems a bit discriminitory to even post something like that, like ordering someone not to read it. Anyway, I would add you to my aim, but I have a problem with jaws repeating messages over and over again, and it's annoying, so that's why I don't log in on that, otherwise, I would add you to aim and we could just talk there. Ice master, I wasn't referring to you, actually, I wasn't even thinking of anyone in particular, I didn't even say the guys weren't nice, I just said afterthat topic, I couldn't think of any. Anyhow, I'm not barring guys from posting in this topic. I couldn't really do that anyway, even if I wanted to. Anyway Caitlin, if you know of a way so that jaws doesn't keep reading old messages over and over, I'd appreciate it. I think we could talk a long time over there, because I only have ten contacts on aim. and btw, my nick on there is tarhill woman. I think I told you once, but that was a while ago. and there isn't an easy way to switch from window to window if someone ims you while you are in a conversation.
wonderwoman
Hi Wonderwoman, I'm not sure what the issue you're having with AIM entails, but maybe I could send you the version of AIM I have, which I've heard works well with Jaws, and then you could upgrade to that one. I would have you upgrade off the ite, but I've heard that one isn't working, teh download, I mean. Anyway, if you want me to send you my AIM installer, feel free to priavate message me with yoru E-Mail address, or post it on here if you're comfortable, and I'll attach it and send it to you. It'll be no trouble. I'd love to talk to you on AIM!
Caitlin
Well, I think making a post specifying exactly who should read it on a board system like this is a bit on the useless side to me. In the end, it really doesn't matter all that much to me. I will not, by the way, make any claims of being a nice guy or not. Here's how I see the way people work. Nobody in their right mind would admit they're not nice or that they're a hypocrite or what have you. We all want everyone to believe we're nice and good and we haven't a fault or flaw in the universe. Unfortunately we have this silly concept called image, as if this artificial version of us is more important than the real us. Oh, and while I'm here in pontificating mode, one more thing. Disagreement is not hatred. If all of us agreed on everything, there'd be no point in even communicating. A lot of us seemed to be raised to feel that if somebody disagrees with something we say, they hate us or are out to get us. It also seems a lot of us are brought up to believe we have to protect everybody else's feelings and please everyone but ourselves at all costs. Yeah, I dig politeness, but I don't think I have to make sure everybody is pleased with me or likes what I say or do. Long as I can say what I need to without being intentionally nasty about it I think it'll be OK.
Agree with Lab.
I will readily admit to being a hypocrite and not being a "nice guy." Does that make me not in my right mind, or does that just make me honest? Maybe that's why I despise hypocrites and mean people so much. I used to adopt the "nice guy" demeanor for as long as I could, but I've come to understand why "nice guys finish last." People who often want to be known for being "nice" spend most of their time seeking the approval of others. They intentionally do things to try to get people to "like" them. I'm not going to get into details here, but suffice it to say, wussy behavior is not very attractive. This doesn't mean that people should intentionally be "mean." Meanness isn't attractive, either. It just means that if you're not comfortable with who you are, then others won't be comfortable with you. And seeking people's approval all the time is not a sign that you're comfortable with yourself.
Hi Caitlin,
I have aim version 4.7. I downloaded it from,
www.blind-help.com
I didn't know it was such an old version until I went to the about box and found out that way. I'll think about it, and send you my email privately.
wonderwoman
well blink, at least you admit it. I have to appreciate that. there aren't many people who aren't nice who will admit it, lol.
wonderwoman
am i a nice person? can i join? hahahaha. smile!
well i don't think it's necessarily a case of having to protect peoples' feelings, i think it's just a case of consideration. Those of you that know me will know I am an extremely outspoken person, I say exactly what I think, and if people don't like that, they don't have to listen to it. But I think that being outspoken makes me a better person because at least people know where they're at with me. I can't stand people who won't come out and say it straight. If I'm thinking something, feeling something, then I'll say it, I'll never intentially set out to hurt someone, in fact I like to think that I can make people happy, but I am incredibly honest, and sometimes this might not be the approach people are looking for.
Well, Blink, you're probably more honest than most folks according to my admittedly cynical point of view. You're probably similar to me in that you call things as you see them. I can also agree with you about hte nice guy thing. I used to be one myself. No, there's no sense in being an asshole either, but I just relax, do what I need to and say what I need to. I'm not trying to win popularity contests here. Couldn't stand being popular, as I'm an intravert and need my space. Hahahaha!
dont worry i will close the door on my way out andW it
And Wonder it was meant as a joke ..never mind.
Am I a nice guy? Well, the answer really depends how you define nice. Some people I'm nice, some people love me, while others hate me. If we all liked each other, thought the same of each other, this world wouldn't be what it is. I am honest, outspoken and always say what I think. I don't see the point of being polite to someone just because I'm talking to them if I disagree with something they said/did, yet talk otherwise behind their back. In the same way I'd like to be treated the same, if you don't like me, fine, after all, I don't expect whole world or everyone on the zone, for that matter, to like me. Saying all that, I met some veryt interesting people and made some great friends on here and I'm sure it will continue. Like some other said, I too, don't do things to intentionally hurt people, but I'm also not going to be saying nice things about everyone and everything all the time just because it would make me look good/popular.
Just thought i would drop in and say hi. lol
I.K You have hit the nail on the head this post is about gathering those who want to be liked, while sending a strong message to those who definately aren't, to stay away we dont want to know you. I prefer to have a conversation with someone who speaks their mind as you know right away where you stand...I can't say what I really think here but as far as the context of the top post is concerned its obviously intended to hurt those who are less popular and thats unfair.
Hear hear Goblin and I never thought I woudl say that! now then chaps I had an exam today and it was in advocacy, so basically I made my application for an injunction before a judge. Now the judge said that I was very persuasive because I was so nice. Victory!
Well theres hope for us yet old boy.smile.Did you pass..Hang On! Just how old was this judge.j/k
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The effect of this post is subliminal it says to the less popular Zoners "you don't fit with us so would you do the decent thing and leave"..that in itself could easily damage the self esteem and confidence of those alienated from the clique, and I find that very distasteful.
I.K. and Goblin .. you sum up my vies on this post very well. I am not pretending to be bubbly and pleaseing everyone just so that someone thinks I'm nice, it wouldn't be me and I don't want it that way, I also think this post is quite as mean as the post it is meant to criticize, if not more so, aad but true.
Cheers
-B
B. I don't think you would pretend I've always known you to be straight down the line..I think some here will join in because they seek popularity but how long will it last before the shallow gold of fake friendship, begins to tarnish and discolour, like cheap brass {I'm feeling all poetic and Byronish tonight}Your post is fine we just cant express what we really feel here.
I think that every one of us aims to be liked at some point though? maybe not in general, maybe not by the popular, in crowd, but every once in a while we meet someone who we like, and so would like them to like us. and by someone I don't necessarily mean a potential partner or anything like that, I just mean that every once in a while we meet someone who we like, and who we would potentially want to have as our friend, and therefore, it stands to reason that, on that occasion, it is important to be liked.
As for being one of the in crowd, well ... I never was that at school, and those of you who know me will know I've never pretended to be something I'm not, that just ain't me.
Hi Snowflake,
feel free to join in anytime. I don't think I've seen you on here before, it's nice to meet you, and welcome to my topic.
wonderwoman
Hi Sugar Baby,
There's nothing wrong with saying what one thinks, but a person doesn't have to attack. I've read your posts and you seem like a very sweet person. And wb, goblin, and internet king, well, if you feel that strongly you don't have to keep reading this topic. Contrary to what you guys think, I didn't start this topic to gain popularity, you just choose to see it that way, which is fine by me. And I'm not nice just so people will aprove, indeed, I don't care if you do or don't approve of me. It's very interesting how you thought blink's post was ok,but just let me express an honest opinion? Well, you guys go ahead and stick together. Since I was nice enough not to reply to a topic that said to be read by males only, nobody can accuse me of the breach of replying to a subject that said males only, and wb, in answer to your reference to my thinking I'm better than the ones who started the male only thing, I'm not better just nicer. I told my mother about this whole thing, and that's what she said. She's 69 old enough to be the grandmother of all of you.
wonderwoman
oh almost forgot, hi jbear
wonderwoman
Dear me wonderwoman, this topic is ceasing to be anything positive at all even though in your first post thereto you say you want it to be a positive rather than a negative topic. You go on, I note, to bash the male gender in a manner which it ill-behoves you to adopt. Now, that topic about being read by males only was a joke, I repeat, a joke, and to clarify, a joke. What's more, it was jolly funny! Now, Wonderwoman, permit me to take you to task on one or two points: you say that it's all right to disagree, but not to attack,and I agree that unwarranted personal attacks on other zoners is not called-for. However, let's say in a post I were to say that in my opinion, all women should stay at home, never go out to work and spend their time cooking the food and having babies. That is not a view I support, and I'm sure many would disagree with this view. Problem is, how could they disagree withit without challenging i.e. attacking it? It deserves to be attacked, it should be attacked, it would be attacked! It is a little shameful wonderwoman in a way that you are all for people having the right to post what they want - your posts to the 'give us a break' topic are testament to that - but then you post this topic that seems to condemn zoners who wish to express their opinions and challenge the arguments of others in a direct and proper manner in one fell swoop. In my view, this smacks of double standards. The fact is that you have not spoken to a large number of male and female zoners alike, so it is wrong to condemn them in this way. Some people may post in a manner that you don't personally find agreeable, but it is quite mistaken in my opinion to stigmatise or disenfranchise a large number of users in this way. the whole point of a message board is for constructive argument where, god forbid, people will disagree. Long live diversity of zoner, diversity of opinion, and good, intellectually challenging and thought-provoking topics with a plethora of opinions from across the spectrum! This doubtless puts me on the side of the bad guys, but if so, then amen to that.
And regarding the reference to the person old enough to be grandmother to most of us, wonderwoman, it is true that our elders are due a measure of respect; but there is a difference between respect and unquestioning acquiescence. many people of that generation fought against the ideas of unquestioning acquiescence propounded by the vial dictatorships of yore, and I take my hat off to them. I duly exercise my right, as I see fit, to disagree, debate, argue the toss, call it what you like, with the opinions of others if I feel that it is necessary to challenge their views. That is the most positive thing that has emerged from this topic viz. that people have endorsed the freedom of debate ideal. This is, as I say, the positive beacon amongst this litany of negativity, which is ironic in a way as this topic, whose mission statement declares it to be a positive one, turns out to be one of the most negative I have ever read on the zone, partly due to the contributions of its original author.
Well, I think people post something like to be read by males only, probably thinking no females would read it. It's not like I called the guys jerks, I simply stated they weren't nice, quite a difference. I think people really meanit like that when they say to be read by males only, and just expect it not to be read or replied to, then they just brush it away by saying, it was only a joke. They expect people to just sit back and not respond at all. I don't think any of the females here would post a topic like that, at least I've never seen a topic like that posted by any of the women and girls on here. I probably would still be getting this flack even if I had just said nice people only, ah but no matter, I'm not apologizing, I have nothing to apologize for. And isn't this being blown up out of proportion? I wasn't even going to read it, because I thought it was serious, and I thought it was a real male oriented topic. If I had really wanted to get really negative and in the same vain, I could titled it something like, no males allowed, it's all in how you view it.
wonderwoman
Wonderwoman I'm afraid to say that even if you feel like this, even if you feel that the topic was out of order, even if you feel that the males only topic makes he who created it a nasty person (And note the several very powerful dissents from your view of which you would do well to take note) it nonetheless ill-behoves you to do something similar. Yet that is what you have done, and although admittedly the topic isn't as negative as it could be, that does not avail you. You have created a topic which attempts to set up a rather divisive gender-based dichotomy, and on the basis of what evidence? On the basis, my friend, of one topic which many consider, rightly in my view, to be a joke. You then make the extraordinary generalisation that hyou don't imagine women on the zone would post something like this. I haven't seen anything like this from a woman it is true, but you are certainly redressing the balance by this topic. I have seen no guys post a topic which says, in effect, 'you lot keep out, this topic's for us'. No, not even the 'to be read by males only' topic before you throw that one back at me as I know you are itching to do! It is you, wonderwoman, and nobody else, who has blown this males only malarky out of all proportion, and as wildebrew, Goblin and others have rightly observed, your topic is awash with negativity and the purported battle of the sexes, wihtout justification.
None of this, I must hurriedly add in order to make the point more forecefully, is intended to be a personal attack on yourself, Wonderwoman, for you are undoubtedly one of the more sensible and pleasant zoners. However, if you would accept advice from someone just over half your age, such advice wuold be that you take these topics a little less seriously. You have your right to free speech, as everyone else does, but the corollary of that is that to a degree, you forfeit your right to be offended. If you disagree with something, mount a constructive challenge thereto, but personally, I believe that there can be no objection to the 'To be read by males only topic' or indeed any other topic subject to the standards of common morality and decency that we all share.
Lol cheers all, woot woot. Lol. Yay for nice people. I don't really ahve anything to add about the recent posts, just wanted to say that Blink made a fair point. I for one don't be nice to seek attention, atl east I don't feel I do. I just hate being mean. Because I don't like being mistreated, so I know others wouldn't either.
Caitlin
well said Caitlin, I am not nice to get attention, I am because I was raised to be, and it's the right thing to do. It's ok ccaitlin, I'm choosing what post to read now in this topic.
wonderwoman
everyone is nice and everyone is nasty!
oh and btw Blink, your post contradicts you a lot my boy! you aim to seek a lot of aproval I here, but you are going about it the wrong way. so please be careful what you say and what you truly believe.
I never claimed that I don't ever seek the approval of others. What I claimed is that I'm not a "nice guy." Claiming that I never try to get people to like me would be just as ludicrous as claiming that I am without fault.
to be fair to Blink183, I see no evidence from his post that seems to have caused such a stir that by posting in that fashion he seeks to win the approval of others.
Hmmm Goblin you find it very distasteful that a post's subliminal message is 'you don't fit in here so why don't you leave'? Well you are quite keen on sending that message in a less than subliminal way yourself aren't you?
Is that distasteful or not? Wonderwoman why don't you stick to your safe haven topics ...?
LawLord, you are outdoing yourself old lad very well said and nicely constructed argument.
WonderWoman, how can you justify your continuous claim that you are "nicer" than other people. The whole topic here speaks to the contrary, despite what your mother (with all due respect indeed, I am sure she is a nice and wise woman) says, I have seen no evidence to suggest that, in fact, you are any nicer than other zoners and your gender generalization are simply ridiculous.
Caitlin, yes, well said actually there is a difference between not being nice to everyone all of the time and being mean, you should never be mean and you should seak to be fair and polite to everyone. We all try to follow that I think and certainly people come along whom you wish to get along with or to be liked by (be that for romantic reasons, family, career or just friendship) but it should be considereed those folks are usually already people that you have something in common with, who share your views or opinions or interests and respect the person you are so you really do not have to go that far out of the way to gain their approval and if gaining their approval means becoming someone you're not entirely than I'm afraid, it is something that is doomed to eventually fail. You can change little things about yourself, certain things you say or do, but you can't change the core of the person you are.
So, cheers to all, I hope this negativity will not be a perminant features of ourotherwise fantastic message boards, so lighten up folks, let us leave this negative era of the Zone's history in this topic and move on.
Cheers
-B
This is the closest thing to crazy I have ever known, this topic seems to spin itself into ever-decreasing circles. Wonderwoman I think freya puts it beautifully when she says you should stick to your safe haven topics about braille paper, DSL lite and all that sort of malarky, where you can wander through uncontroversial pastures and tread the smooth road of agreement. wow Lawlord what crazy metaphores you produce! Crazy metaphores for a crazy topic containing crazy generalisations, the only missing ingredient is a mention of the black watch.
LL you have been listening to too much Katie Meluia (sp) or possibly too many of those furniture ads...No the latest topic in Safe Haven is Wow! I just love search engines!!!! a most decidedly uncontroversial topic if ever I heard one. Actually my metaphors are way crazier than yours LL and you forgot to mention old Jeremy...(Clarkson that is). I believe he has applied to join the Black Watch in his spare time from driving way too fast in little sports cars which he can hardly fit in to! seeya Frey.
WW.you mean you are choosing which posts you would rather read rather than listening to the posts which speak the truth hmm?.
What on earth is there to love about search engines? Now, call me old-fashioned if you will, but I generally use a search engine to search for something and once that activity is performed, that is the end of the matter. I don't, as far as I'm aware, form any close ties of love and affection with a search engine! Dear oh dear! that 'closest thing to crazy' is a good song by the way, a little out of place on a furniture advert.
Anyway I thought dFS used to write their own songs for their adverts. who can ever forget the immortal words of 'can I afford you? Yes, no fear, 'cos you've been free in my home for a year, with five years credit, that's great too, DFS I love you!' terms and conditions apply; minimum contract one year; offer subject to status and credit approval; money-back guarantee strictly limited; insurance not included; in participating stores only in Sydcup, New Maldon, bromley and finchley; offer ends 17 January.
Its finally happened our learned friend has flipped his lid! And that song drives me up the feckin wall maybe we will end up incaracerated together pal...imagine that! Grin
I thought it was very good, should have won record of the year that one.
And another thing why on earth do the likes of DFS assume we need to begin 2005 with a new sofa! My sofa of 5 years is extremely comfortable, though I would like it a little longer,especially when my 6 ft 2 brother is stretched out asleep, but on the whole we are very pleased with it.
Well, of course the reason is that ths sofa folks had previously broke down after all the chocolate and black pudding consumed over Xmas, given the obeasity problem in the UK it's understandable the sofas have to be renewed after the gloteny season (boy am I really getting off topic or what).
Obesity problem in the UK? No most of the fat bastards of this world are made in america I'm afraid, special seats for fat people and all that. Thank god we don't have that over here. Anyway, DFS pick on the people who are addicted to the sales and who will buy a sofa whether or not they need one. Anyone else remember what other songs have previously been used to advertise DFS? wasn't there a French one somewhere along the line?
I wonder what Wonderwoman makes of this talk about DFS. I mean, the guys take over this topic and what do they use it to talk about? bloody furniture! terrible! Not nice at all!
Well, just to nail the point home .. the initial tpic WonderWoman put down here was
"Hi, do not reply if, 1, you are not nice, 2, have only negative things to say about people."
Then she goes right on to talk about that she could not think of any nice guys (well "it would be discriminating against the few nice guys on here" .. now if that isn't a negative thing to say about people I have no idea what a negative thing is apparently .. and yet she replied, with more negative things to say about people .. funny when people break their own rules
LOL, on this I would have to agree. All people are nice and nasty. Just depends on what side of them you know/see. Also like I've stated before in another post. I tend to get along with guys. I think they're more sensitive then they're given credit for in most circles, and even if I didn't it's wrong to judge someone on basis of gender, that's the same as basing your judgement of a person on blindness. I've seen people have the attitude; oh, she can't see so she's stupid, or deaf, or something stupid like that. It's the same thing I bet most of us fight every day, and yet, one of our own is proprogating it against others do to a difference. Hmm. Also, LOL on the furnature discussion.
amen to that, hear hear as they say in parliament, and as they also say in parliament: the question is whether there are nice guys in the zone: as many of that opinion say aye. aye! and aganinst say no.......I think the aye's have it, the aye's have it. and the second aye's is always very long and drawn out. so it's more like: I think the aye's have it, the aaaaaaaaaaye's have it.
And witchcraft you should pop down to DFS and get a sofa from there, that closest thing to crazy song that they use for the advert makes it one of my favourite TV commercials at the moment.
PS: guys, a job well done I think, we have trashed the anti-guy topic well and truly! Keep up the good work gentlemen.
wow! talk about circles!
Well Freya, that is the first board I go to, but there aren't many posts per day there, but I'll say the same thing toyou as I have said to others, if my topics are boring to you because they aren't controversial enough, so be it, chow.
wonderwoman
and you don't have to read them, no one is forcing you to.
wonderwoman
Let's not talk about circles, it would be very dull indeed.
Gosh, guys, don't make fun of Wonderwoman's topics. That's not nice, and this topic is for nice people only! Heh. But seriously, come on. SOme of us don't like contraversy. There's nothing wrong with that. And sorry if I spelt that wrong. Anyway cheers all. Caitlin
I happen to love controversy, more as a spectator than anything else. I guess lack of controversy is good for some, but I'm not going to make fun of that. But for me, topics that are light and nothing more can get dull after a while. Kind of like a steady diet of really pretty, light music. Sometimes you just want to crank it up and rock and roll.
I don't think, Caitlin, that anyone has a problem with uncontroversial topics. nay, what has upset the male population is the stuff of nonsense about there being no nice guys on the zone. Now, I notice that Wonderwoman hasn't apologised for the rather stupid generalisation she makes. She doesn't have to of course, but you would have thought she might now that she realises her argument is without foundation. Anyway guys what's so controversial about DFS?
nothing at all and I'm weakening in the face of their constant advertising I'll have to do something in order to get a seat!. Songs in adverts let me see hmm..."I See You Baby Shakin That Ass"..Renault Megane
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WW the word is CIAO! .Chow is a breed of dog or a slang word for food.
weee, ! I'm dizzy. All these circles. I tell ya, these message boards aren't a good thing to be reading after a few drinkies. Now that I'm well and truely confuzzled about apparently horrible zoner blokes. Which I might add I dont' agree with. I can think of a few nice zoner boys (one in particular) *wink wink* and people beeing nasty or nice, wait isn't that out of a christmas carol? oh no, that's naughty or nice, right, never mind. and furnature advertisments. I think I'll go to bed now.,
PS, closest thing to crazy is a nice song. Katie Delmua is pretty good although it has to be said, that the producer of her album could have done a better job, but that's also slightly off topic, but it's not interesting enough to warrent having it's own thread started, so I'll just leave it here.
Ok, night night.
a tee bit wipsy puggle.
I think her name is Katie Mellua actually but Delmua's close enough I guess. Wonderwoman, stick to your chat about search engines I think, another vote for the aye's and if they didn't have it before, I think that this confirms that the guys have it, the guys have it. Order. the house will now proceed to the main business of the day: the question is as on the order paper, as many of that opinion say aye. etc.
Division. clear the lobby.
Too damned right we have it in fact some of us never lost it! According to our beloved .Aye {Scots for yes}
Puggle..this is good the defenition of Puggled in Scotland is to be drunk, or as we say half cut, get a grip on yourself we do not allow drunken behaviour in the house as I well know grin
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Your man had me standing in a corner the other week there, I wouldn't have minded, but Oliver Letwin was rather too close for comfort.
Just a minute, Michael Howard had you standing in a corner of the House of Commons? Perhaps Eadle is right after all. Nothing wrong with our Oliver Letwin, he's a damn fine young man and will make an excellent chancellor in May.
Oh I forgot, what comes after the 'civision, clear the lobby' instruction? Ah yes I remember: lock the doors!
Yes they love to have me standing around in corners like a dark version of Michelangelo's David, with clothes on to their acute disappointment...
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ohh come on he's is an insufferable puke who will no doubt have a brief, but hopefully meteoric rise,in his chosen field ...
ah ha now we really can get down to business, "Alistair if you would be so kind as to lower and set up the rack, thankyou isn't he gorgeous and so fit" ..where was I hmm {crack} ohh my sweet are you here also, do you wish to play, of course its been so long what with the weather and.... that suspended sentence..
Oh dear this is very worrying now. Jeremy clarkson last week, and Oliver Letwin this week?
Wonderwoman didn't mean to be generalizing, I'm sure. She just said she couldn't think of any nice guys at the moment heh! But there are a lot of nice guys on here and she admitted that later, I believe (post 6).
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Caitlin, I'm afraid you are drawing on selective parts of the discussion and that will not avail you. It is true that in post 6 Wonderwoman says that there may be a few nice guys, but then later on she goes on to say 'my mind is a blank' giving rise to the implication that there aren't really any nice guys or at least that she isn't prepared to contemplate the possibility. she then goes to pour further scorn on the notion by alleging, unjustifiably, that no women would post a topic like the 'to be read by males only' topic. She then fails to take note of any of the arguments that have been levelled against her view, wrongly in my opinion. I could go on, but I shan't. I merely repeat once again: I think the guys have it, the guys have it.
Yeah you have a poitn LL I guess. You'd do better off talking to Wonderwoman than I, I daresay. But as I say, I'm sure she didn't mean to come off in a hurtful, derogatory way. She's nicer than that, she's a very nice person. Caitlin
Oh no worry not for you misunderstand me LL,your man does nothing for me at all,I'm sure I'd feel a conscious urge to vomit in his nauseating presence, which would curtail any hope of shenanigans which would be a massive relief on my part.
And on his part too, Goblin, of that I have no doubt.
Thanks Caitlin, actually, the tab key works as good as an ignore feature, so I'm just stepping lightly over them, lol.
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LL are you still persisting with your fantasy that Michael 'boring' Howard is going to win in May. Absolutely not!! I seem to have rather lost the thread of this discussion, what with the merits of DFS as a sofa maker and Oliver Letwin on the rack??......However I do not concur with me learned friend that the guys have it, rather that dear old Wonderwoman has been put in her place and now has to resort to 'ignoring' if some nasty, nasty people post in her thread! Please remember in future to post only about fluffy things etc. Frey.
Htil to the tab key, the solutin to all misfounded arguments, the guys have it (ad those girls who consider themselves guy friendly in principle), too bad we sadly do not have a DFS in the U.S. I demand to get a copy of some of these insane ad songs, those who can find the jingles somewhere online please give me a url.
cheers
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Ollie?oh no your man's safe.though I've had suspicions about him for some time now,and just the thought of them is bringing on nightmares!.
Or, you could down arrow until ya reach the end of the post!~!! Lol! Caitlin
Lol LL, you are just too much! exactly what is your point here? I'm lost! Lol but .. British political history saw the death of me last year. the house of commons, all that stuff that for some insane reason we still had to study and analyze. what came first, the chicken or the egg? there's one for ya! Lol
Yay, lets all fucking hold hands and smoke joints because we can't deal with meanies!
I'm fed up of discussions that cry out desperately for nice people! wonderwoman I'm afraid I have to conclude that your tactic of pressing the tab key and treating others' opinions as they are writt in water and of no use to anyone by ignoring them, whilst at the same time commenting adversely on them, is not nice at all. take some lessons from your own topic or alternatively stick to your topics about why you can't wrap fries in newspapers anymore.
LOL! Its well seen your a lawyer pal..
Awww c'mon LL that is a very good question I mean, why can't we wrap fries in newspapers anymore...hang on a minute though we can can't we!! Oh well I guess we'll have to get back to discussing why we all love search engines soooooo much!!!!!!! I reckon WWs gone invisible aswell so she can sneak around in secret posting her little topics, which only 'nice' people are allowed to read eh? Frey.
All topics for nice people will be sabotaged by the Lawlordian controversy machine. AS to the newspapers, we were told a few years ago that we couldn't wrap anything in them because the ink is so cheap it comes off and gets all over whichever food you choose to wrap therein. That reminds me: a few years ago I saw an advert for the Daily Mail 'Buy a copy of the daily Mail because you can read it without getting ink on your fingers'. What a bloody ridiculous thing to say! It's like saying you may as well have a cup of bleach for your breakfast because it doesn't stain the teapot!
cup of bleach goes lovely with the haggis eh LL....nobody would read that trash anyways!
agreed on that one yes. The daily Mail is not for me.
Ok, I've read most of the posts on this topic and I'd like to clarify something for those "not nice" people who need special explanation: it is perfectly fine to voice disagreements, to argue, to challange each other, to have different points of view. That's all normal and helthy. However, and this is the thing wonderwoman and the "nice" people group is trying to say, when you disagree you can argue but it's totally wrong and pointless to tell people for instance that they're a worthless piece of shit, their ideas suck, they're out of their mind, to go f themselves etc...
I'm relatively new to the zone and I don't know many people here, but from what I've seen there are nice guys and some of the girls are nasty and rood so it's not a matter of gender but a matter of attitude. Some people here just like to insult. That's their idea of fun. Well I'm sorry but it seems like a childish tasteless thing to do. So, am I a nice person? *smile*
...and the drama continues...
well my goodness, this topic was burried under mountainous pages. My observation was it is morely guys who start topics telling others not to reply if there not male, or something like I'm tired of this, or tired of that.
Well lawlord, if you found my topic so ddistastefull, why did you take the time and effort to go pages deep to bring it up. No need to answer that, because I'm going to put you onignore, something I'm good at, lol. Good bye to yo, and yes firebolt, you are a nice person. If I were a mean obnoxious person, I wouldn't put anyone on ignore, just so I could arguing and fighting with them.
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wonderwoman your topics are meaningfull and worthwhile reading. so are all your posts
yeah for buried posts being re-dug up! :)
Thanks stargate, I try, but as you can see, I don't start topics on the lets talk board anymore, just mostly worrying the folks on the geeks board, because I'm a newbie to xp, but you notice how topics get the most responses if it's something others can pick apart and bash. The ignore feature is my best friend, lol. I bring up old topics if I'm fairly new, mostly because although they may be old to others, they're new to me. Of course firebolt makes a good point about some of the girls on here, but I won't expand further on that one. I think all sites teach you something, for instance, this site has taught me not to go too far out of my wayto escape from conflicts. I of course don't intentionally start conflicts, but if a confrontation arises, I don't run like a scared kitten either. I will state what I think, and if I feel someone is just being mean or just likes keeping a feud going, I will hit the ignore link. Thanks stargate.
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